(August 20, 2015 at 3:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Fine Cephus, can I then argue that because most Christians in Europe don't go to church except for weddings and funerals therefore the Church isn't Christianity?
You're just skipping questions and giving incoherent answers, no one is saying that most atheists are a part of those groups, but those aren't fringe insignificant institutions but they have some degree of influence because of supporters, etc. No one is saying that is indicative of what atheism is, but it is indicative that atheists can organize institutionally as well, even if there isn't a bible you can make shit up as you go along
I'd agree with you that the individuals probably aren't, most people in Europe don't really believe in gods, their limited church activity is social, not religious. Of course, the churches only exist to push a particular religious view so clearly, they are religious in nature.
But you can't really point to organizations that clearly only represent a minuscule minority of atheists and pretend that their mission statement describes them all. I think American Atheists is one of, if not the largest atheist group in the country, but they only have 2200 members. Why do you think this tiny little group gets to speak for millions of atheists? That's like saying that the Million Moms, a tiny group of people working in a basement at the American Family Association, actually represents the interests of half of the people in America. That's just idiotic.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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