(August 20, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Confused Ape Wrote:(August 20, 2015 at 4:23 pm)Cephus Wrote: Yup, but Westboro Baptist Church gets noticed too and they're only a handful of people, not representative of the overwhelming majority of American Christians. So are we supposed to think that picketing funerals and making asses of themselves constitutes a Christian movement in America?
The atheist activists are campaigning for things like the separation of church and state and removing intelligent design from school science classes etc. Here is an example of what many American Christians feel about this because the campaigns affect them.
A Message To Atheist Activists Warring Against Christ This Holiday Season
I really don't care what the American Christians think to be perfectly honest. American Christianity, indeed, most religion, is based on the idea of paranoia, that everyone is out to get them, that the devil is hiding behind every tree, just waiting for them to slip up so their souls fall into eternal perdition. You want to know why Christians have their panties in a bunch? Because they used to have a lot of undeserved power and now that power is gone and they desperately want it back. Christmas used to be their holiday. Now it's not, in fact, now it's almost entirely secular. They don't like that. They used to be able to get away with sectarian religious displays on public property. Now they can't and they're pissed. These are things they should never have been able to do. They could. Now they can't. They're playing it as discrimination. In actuality, it's making things the way they should have been all along.
Quote:Quote:It seems not a day goes by when the Freedom From Religion Foundation or some other atheist, secularist or humanist group isn't attacking a Christian prayer meeting, demanding the take down of a nativity scene or working to ban some other form of Christian expression. Indeed, the war on Christmas is raging even now.
American Christians aren't looking to trample your rights to believe (or not believe) whatever you want to believe (or not believe). So why are some atheist activists so driven to wage war against all things Christian each and every Christmas season? And why does that battle have to continue throughout the year at football games and other public events where Christians simply want to display a Bible verse on a sign? Why are you fighting so hard against a God you don't believe exists?
The Westboro Baptist Church, on the other hand, is just an embarrassment to most Christians.
I agree with you. There are a lot of things that I think ostensibly atheist organizations out there are doing that I find an embarrassment to atheism, but I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me and everyone has the freedom to do what they want to do without having an effect on others.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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