RE: Evidence: The Gathering
August 21, 2015 at 1:41 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2015 at 1:42 am by Randy Carson.)
(August 20, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(August 20, 2015 at 7:49 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Paul was a young scholar moving rapidly up the chain of command within the ranks of the Pharisees. His future in Jerusalem was assured.In Acts we are told that after his conversion, Paul went to Jerusalem and met with all the disciples and went on an evangelism spree. However, in Galatians, Paul gives a sworn affidavit that none of that ever happened. He says he did not make it to Jerusalem until 3 years later and only met John and a few others but the disciples never saw his face. What difference does it make what his motivations were if his whole story was doctored by writers who couldn't agree about what happened?
And then he threw it all away to join the very group he had been persecuting?
Why? What was his motivation?
This is why it's important to know about Bible contradictions so we can identify the cherry pickers and quasi-arguments.
Paul wrote:
Quote:17 I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus. 18 Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas (Peter) and stayed with him fifteen days. 19 I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother. 20 I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie.
So, apparently, after the persecution broke out against the Church, the apostles were scattered such that Paul only met Peter and James, the Lord's brother, in Jerusalem three years later. He went from Damascus > Arabia > Jerusalem.
Luke does not mention the three-year sojourn in Arabia; Paul does. But Luke doesn't say that Paul went straight from Damascus to Jerusalem, either. He wrote:
Quote:Saul spent several days with the disciples in Damascus. 20 At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God. 21 All those who heard him were astonished and asked, “Isn’t he the man who raised havoc in Jerusalem among those who call on this name? And hasn’t he come here to take them as prisoners to the chief priests?” 22 Yet Saul grew more and more powerful and baffled the Jews living in Damascus by proving that Jesus is the Messiah.
23 After many days had gone by, there was a conspiracy among the Jews to kill him, 24 but Saul learned of their plan. Day and night they kept close watch on the city gates in order to kill him. 25 But his followers took him by night and lowered him in a basket through an opening in the wall.
26 When he came to Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples, but they were all afraid of him, not believing that he really was a disciple. 27 But Barnabas took him and brought him to the apostles. He told them how Saul on his journey had seen the Lord and that the Lord had spoken to him, and how in Damascus he had preached fearlessly in the name of Jesus. 28 So Saul stayed with them and moved about freely in Jerusalem, speaking boldly in the name of the Lord. 29 He talked and debated with the Hellenistic Jews,[a] but they tried to kill him. 30 When the believers learned of this, they took him down to Caesarea and sent him off to Tarsus.
I highlighted the passage in blue to show the gap. YOU contend that Luke has Paul going straight from Damascus to Jerusalem in vv 25-26. But this is not what Luke wrote. Paul never wrote of his experience in Arabia, and Luke is silent about it, also. We don't know what happened there, but Paul came back a changed man...and one who had learned much from the Lord apparently, because he says that he did not receive his gospel from "any man, but from the Lord." He also speaks of visions and being caught up to heaven, so maybe this occurred during this extended retreat in the desert.
We don't really know. But what we do know is that there is no contradiction between Acts 9 and Galatians 1.
Now, don't dodge the question; What did Paul have to gain by giving up a promising career among the Pharisees and joining the fledgling Christians?