(August 24, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Javaman Wrote:(August 18, 2015 at 8:47 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry, I didn't realize I was "dodging" your question, I guess I just misunderstood it. When you say "the Catholic Church use their influence," aren't you referring to Catholic people deciding that they are going to do this? What exactly are you referring to?
When you were being very mean to me earlier on in the thread, I was giving you kudos as a joke. The last kudos I gave you was genuine because I liked that you accepted my response and then asked the next question respectfully.
Both you and Randy have suggested that the phrase "The Catholic Church" means all Catholics everywhere. For example, you said this: "Well it's just weird because all of us Catholics make up the "Catholic Church."
I realize this is a bit late, but do you realize how that sounds to an outsider? It sounds like you are suggesting that you, as a Catholic, are equally culpable and complicit in both the good and bad actions of the Church. This includes the despicable acts of shielding pedophiles and encouraging clergy not to contact the authorities when sexual abuse is reported.
I'm having a hard time making sense of that stance.
The Catholic individuals who covered up the abuse, are morally responsible for those actions. The Catholic individuals who did not cover up the abuse, are not morally responsible for those actions.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh