(August 24, 2015 at 6:15 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(August 24, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Like Ehrman?
Yeah, you've missed the whole point. Even atheist scholars concede that Jesus did exist.
I keep reading this thing that you write... It keeps grinding my gears...
A Jesus did most likely exist, I'll grant you that.
But what qualities does that Jesus have? What did he do?
What does Ehrman say about that Jesus that did exist? What do the scholars say about that Jesus?
A good chunk...maybe 75% or so, accept the Five Minimal Facts which I posted in another thread.
This is a multi-step process, poca.
1. Provide evidence that Jesus existed. (A bigger ordeal than I imagined early on given the absurdity of mythicism.)
2. Provide evidence that Jesus was resurrected. (This is based on indirect evidence and based on probabilities and not certainties.)
3. Provide an argument that if Jesus rose from the dead, then his claims of divinity are worthy of consideration.
Maybe there are probably other steps...but you get the idea.
Getting past step one is a huge hurdle in this forum.