Evidence: The Gathering

[Randy Carson]

What is your point, abaris? That there are no atheist scholars who admit that Jesus existed other than Ehrman? That's a losing argument as you can confirm for yourself with a quick Google search.

So you mean Gerd Lüdemann after all. Would do you good if you actually informed yourself on what he actually wrote. I may be wrong about his atheism, but his book certainly isn't an apologetic work, since he's arguing for the gospels being wrong. Assuming you're refering to his book "Der große Betrug", published in 1998.

My point is, you're presenting to us what you consider to be the safe side. And you quite obviously came up with Lüdemann by looking at and knowing Craig without doing a background check on what Lüdemann's writing is actually about.

And as for his being expelled in your link - wrong again. He left there in 2011, aged 65, as professor emeritus.

Um...no, actually...the Craig connection was just a coincidence. I just Googled "atheists who admit that Jesus existed" and got a whole bunch of names.

You can do the same since my efforts were so unsatisfactory.