Evidence: The Gathering

[Randy Carson]

Because to us - it's just a discussion, with almost nothing at stake. Randy on the other hand is desperately fighting for his salvation and the eternal life he's been conned into believing in - and failing at it. It's morbidly fascinating - like watching a venomous spider trying to climb out of the bath-tub.

I mean the atheist Gerd Ludemann who has debated William Lane Craig on the resurrection. 

Lundmann is indeed and atheist.  Like Ehrman, he became one through historical study of the New Testament.   It's a common story.   Baptists and other evangelicals warn seminarians not to go on to get higher degrees in theology for fear the will lose faith.   I find that rather telling.

Then why do all those Baptist theological seminaries offer PhD programs?

Jenny, that wasn't your finest moment...