atheism and children

[Catholic_Lady]

Well obviously it's not about the weapon. I was using an example of a scenario. When a person is coming after you, trying to kill you, you have the right to defend yourself regardless of whether or not that person is consciously aware of the fact that they are trying to kill you. That is up for the courts and medical professionals to decide. I have already explained that I think this is different from a baby growing in the wrong place. Don't know what else to tell ya if you honestly don't see the difference that I see.

But you're still speaking in terms of intent, that this person, regardless of the manner in which they endanger your life, is trying to kill you, which I completely disagree about, and think is an incorrect framing of the situation.  I no more think an embryo is trying to kill its mother by implanting in her Fallopian tube than I think a mentally retarded individual is trying to kill someone by, let's say, sitting on their chest and suffocating the other person if they have no understanding of death, harm or the potential consequences of their actions.  In the analogy above, Person A did not intend to contract this fatal blood disease, but they did.  And Person A might not even have intended to endanger Person B's life, but they are.  There is no "try" about it, there is no intent to kill in these situations.  They are accidents of biology.

Did you miss the part where I wrote "When a person is coming after you, trying to kill you, you have the right to defend yourself regardless of whether or not that person is consciously aware of the fact that they are trying to kill you."

I think I make myself perfectly clear that I understand it may not be a consciously intended act.

You see the scenario of a baby growing in the wrong place, and a person connected to another person contracting a disease, as the same thing as an insane person running after you with a knife, or repeatedly bashing your head into a wall, or shooting at you, or whatever example you want to use. I cannot understand your view that these scenarios are the same, anymore than you can understand my views that they are different. It just is what it is.