(August 26, 2015 at 12:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Heheh, I settle for something far less than proof, which is why I didn't ask for proof, just pass and fail conditions. So don't sweat it. I agree on 1 and 2 (somewhat), the third not so much, but for purposes of discussion, consider them all in.Ah, $4 could be the touchstone. If we postulate that lightbulbs and campfires don't interpret stimulis. But I see that I must correct something here. The lightbulb is just a physical body. We're talking about the electricity that runs through the bulb.
Quote:A lightbulb or campfire does not interpret or even respond to stimuli. It can be affected by it, say when wind blows a fire, but that’s not a response.We're already in trouble......as these failure conditions are for campfires, not your conjecture....ignoring that, you didn't reference them in 1, 2, or 3........perhaps you'll need to add a 4th? Otherwise, campfires and lightbulbs are still in.
Something like - 4: Awareness is interpretation or response to stimuli
(you can probably already see where I'm going to go......you ready to accept the sentience of everything I might care to dredge up? I'm very creative, in that regard...lol)
If we apply a GC style re-interpretation of the word "interpret," yeah we could probably include earthworms.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.