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Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
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Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
Everyone,

What do you think of Giulio Tononi's theories of consciousness:

http://centerforsleepandconsciousness.me...ononi.html

I posted the above link to Sean Carroll's blog (his post on consciousness) but he deleted it a short time later.

I think that Tononi's ideas on consciousness make sense.  Of course, no theory may explain consciousness in its entirety but Tononi goes the farthest in my opinion.
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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
Which Sean Carroll was that?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
(September 16, 2016 at 8:26 pm)Alex K Wrote: Which Sean Carroll was that?

The physicist:

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/
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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
For those interested, Wikipedia has a great article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated...ion_theory

I am NO expert, of course!  But, Giulio's ideas make the most sense to me, and I have listened to a number of scientists talk about consciousness, but, of course, everyone has their own opinion and/or favorite.
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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
It's beyond my meager understanding.
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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
(September 16, 2016 at 9:42 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It's beyond my meager understanding.

Hey, join the club; here's some interviews with Tononi about his ideas:

https://www.closertotruth.com/contributo...ni/profile
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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
It seems to me that he's talking "around" the subject without actually penetrating it. He uses a lot of phenomenological analysis but he never really explains why we have the phenomenology.
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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
(September 17, 2016 at 3:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It seems to me that he's talking "around" the subject without actually penetrating it.  He uses a lot of phenomenological analysis but he never really explains why we have the phenomenology.

That's known as the "hard problem".  I like to think of it as self-replicating molecules.  What is the chemical process behind that?  No scientist knows for sure.  Likewise, for consciousness.  What's the arrangement of molecules that would result in that?  No one really knows.  However, with time, some brilliant scientist may find such an arrangement (in silicon perhaps), and as with self-replicating molecules, that system of molecules would possess consciousness.
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RE: Giulio Tononi's Theory of Consciousness
Giulio Tononi sounds like the name of a mobster
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(September 17, 2016 at 9:27 pm)Losty Wrote: Giulio Tononi sounds like the name of a mobster

He's from Italy.
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