RE: What Human Rights?
August 30, 2015 at 8:37 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2015 at 8:38 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(August 30, 2015 at 8:11 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(August 30, 2015 at 4:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Like I have already addressed with Vic. I don't expect people to approve of the Church's way of dealing with condom use in AIDS, or to agree with them on what the best way is to end the spread of it. My problem is how some articles, as well as with how a couple individuals here, have portrayed the Church and blown things out of proportion to villainize the Church. At this point I would be repeating my last 5 or so posts if I explained again lol.
Forgive my disagreement, but I think that the Vatican has behaved wrongly in addressing the issue of AIDS in Africa. If they are "villainized", might they not review their policies in order to prioritize life over ideology?
Simply assuming that their morality is by fiat correct, and thereby aiding the deaths of hundreds of thousands, is not a sufficient answer for me.
Be aware, I don't think that the Catholic Church is the only Christian organization that has abused the people on that continent; we know already how American Protestant churches have pushed for laws against homosexuality that are extremely onerous. I'm not singling out your church for its failings. But I am pointing out that by my own lights, human life should always take precedence over church doctrine.
You're free to disagree, of course. But you'll need to have some good ammo in your locker to change my mind. Lives are always more important than doctrine.
I understand what you're saying.
In reference to the bolded, I think it's not that these Catholics who are out there helping believe "Church doctrine" is more important than human life, but rather, it's that they believe following Church doctrine will ultimately save more lives. Which it would, if it were actually followed. IF being the key word there, of course. It get's really complicated when it's difficult to remain abstinent to all but one monogamous life partner. On one hand, the Church wants to promote something that would ultimately be the best thing, on the other hand, most people will ignore it and sleep around anyway. You vehemently disagree with their decision to keep promoting monogamy instead of passing out condoms, but I think it's important to at least acknowledge that their intentions seem to genuinely be in the best interest of the Africans they are trying to help. These are not evil people.
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