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How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
deep thinker Wrote:
Quote:Again, simply state your belief in the origin of matter.  Then, explain why your belief system is superior to any religion.  You are angry because you realize your belief system is not superior to anyone else.  You have spent a lot of time attacking others because you believe your beliefs (and by the way, having no belief system is a belief) are superior.  It makes you very angry to realize you have zero scientific evidence that your belief system is superior to any religion.

I don't have a belief on the origin of matter, because the origin of matter is unknown. One shouldn't have beliefs about the origins of things whose origin is unknown. There are a number of hypotheses which fit the known evidence and have maths that work, but until such time as enough evidence is obtained to make a particular hypothesis stand out as clearly having enough evidentiary support to accept it as most likely, I shouldn't hold any of them to be 'the true one' in advance of that evidence, which might turn out to lead in a new direction entirely.

Scentific knowledge, unlike religious 'knowledge' has given us pretty much everything humanity has gained in the last three centuries. Every version of God amenable to scientific testing has been shown to lack existence, and the definition of God has shrunk until now the claim is that God can't be detected at all, by any means subject to objective verification. Such versions of God can't be disproven, because all claims about what their observable effect on nature would be have been withdrawn, but so have all reasons to believe any of them are correct, with the exception of bad apologetics which reassure the believer that their faith is reasonable, and which anyone thinking about them critically can take apart with ease.

Not only do I have a belief system, I have multiple interlocking ones. I am a rational skeptic. I am a humanist. I am a secularist. I am a 'liberaltarian'. I figured I'd offer, since you're beating around the bush so much about honestly asking what any of us REALLY believe, instead offering us loaded false dichotomies from which to choose and complaining that we won't take the bait.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come? - by Mister Agenda - August 31, 2015 at 11:55 am

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