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Anti gay-marriage atheist??
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist??
(August 31, 2015 at 4:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The stance hasn't changed, you are correct on that. We still believe that Holy Matrimony is the union between one man and one woman, and we still believe that sex is meant for husband/wife. I never claimed anything different. I guess I don't know what you mean about how I "phrased" it.

Well, okay: before it was intrinsically disordered to be gay, it was a sickness, a choice to live in darkness, yada yada. The church, then as now, decided to focus on it for special treatment among sins, only today's church is having to operate in a world where it's no longer socially acceptable to treat gay people as they once did, where they're actually in danger of losing members and power over it, and so they're now cloaking the exact same practices in this happy, smiley "ooh, it's a sin, but god will forgive you...." wheedling tone. That's what I mean by phrasing: taking the same behaviors and trying to make them sound more palatable. In practice, of course, there's little difference, and so the church should hardly be given a cookie for figuring out the right words to avoid negative consequences from their flock, but at the same time I find it troubling how many of the religious, yourself included, seem happy to pass off discrimination as a positive so long as they can find the right sequence of words.

Congratulations: your religion has found a way to make it seem as though they treat homosexuality as just another sin, while focusing on it more than any other anyway. The phrasing has changed, but the problematic elements remain, and so I wouldn't be surprised if eventually people start to see through that lie too.
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Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 30, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - August 30, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Mr.wizard - August 30, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 30, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by thehedglin - August 30, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Esquilax - August 30, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 30, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Spooky - August 30, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 30, 2015 at 8:05 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Minimalist - August 30, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Simon Moon - August 30, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 30, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 31, 2015 at 10:56 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 9:06 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Alex K - August 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Simon Moon - August 30, 2015 at 10:33 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Alex K - August 30, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 10:31 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Alex K - August 30, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Rev. Rye - August 30, 2015 at 10:55 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Homeless Nutter - August 31, 2015 at 4:49 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Regina - August 30, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Alex K - August 30, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Regina - August 30, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 30, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by robvalue - August 31, 2015 at 2:59 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Silver - August 31, 2015 at 3:04 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Longhorn - August 31, 2015 at 3:09 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by robvalue - August 31, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Mudhammam - August 31, 2015 at 3:47 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 31, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Mudhammam - August 31, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 31, 2015 at 4:07 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by ignoramus - August 31, 2015 at 6:52 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Rev. Rye - August 31, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by comet - August 31, 2015 at 6:54 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 31, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Alex K - August 31, 2015 at 9:17 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - August 31, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Esquilax - August 31, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by rexbeccarox - August 31, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 31, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by drfuzzy - August 31, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by drfuzzy - August 31, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by drfuzzy - August 31, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Homeless Nutter - August 31, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Homeless Nutter - August 31, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Esquilax - August 31, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Esquilax - September 1, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 31, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 31, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by drfuzzy - August 31, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Longhorn - August 31, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 31, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Longhorn - August 31, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - August 31, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Whateverist - August 31, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by robvalue - August 31, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Longhorn - August 31, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Longhorn - August 31, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 31, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Longhorn - August 31, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by robvalue - August 31, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Salacious B. Crumb - August 31, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by comet - August 31, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by robvalue - August 31, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by KevinM1 - August 31, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Salacious B. Crumb - August 31, 2015 at 2:39 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by KevinM1 - August 31, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Salacious B. Crumb - August 31, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Redbeard The Pink - August 31, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Regina - August 31, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 4:24 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - August 31, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Regina - August 31, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - August 31, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Tartarus Sauce - September 8, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - September 8, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 31, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - August 31, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Pyrrho - August 31, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Salacious B. Crumb - August 31, 2015 at 7:55 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Divinity - August 31, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Regina - August 31, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Alex K - August 31, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Alex K - August 31, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by rexbeccarox - August 31, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by rexbeccarox - August 31, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - August 31, 2015 at 9:27 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by rexbeccarox - August 31, 2015 at 10:55 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 11:39 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by rexbeccarox - August 31, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - September 1, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by drfuzzy - August 31, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by robvalue - September 1, 2015 at 2:56 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by MTL - September 1, 2015 at 4:29 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by rexbeccarox - September 1, 2015 at 2:05 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - September 1, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - September 1, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - September 1, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - September 1, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Catholic_Lady - September 1, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Javaman - September 1, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by MTL - September 1, 2015 at 3:55 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Regina - September 1, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by abaris - September 1, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by robvalue - September 2, 2015 at 1:49 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 6, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Tartarus Sauce - September 8, 2015 at 8:55 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Losty - September 8, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by Brian37 - September 8, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 9, 2015 at 3:35 am
RE: Anti gay-marriage atheist?? - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 9, 2015 at 11:25 am

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