This point is not that Important, I know, but certain posters here keep posting them as facts, until such point where if you keep quiet, it is as though implicit agreement is given to them.
Adrain does not agree that a thing can create a more complex thing. I give this possible scenario of the future.
It is certainly conceivable(sp) That one day, humans can create a robot, with memory and processing power far greater than the human brain.
There you go.
"The problem is that ephrium is not talking about a process- he is talking about an actual entity, "God," which is less complex than its creation. Which is, and I'm agreeing with what others have said, really unlikely. For a creator god to have actually gone through the act of creating EVERYTHING else, then that entity must be able to not only conceive of what it is creating, but have the power to create it all. If that is not an argument for creator being of greater complexity than what is created then I am confused. "
Not exactly too. I have high IQ, as I have mentioned in another post, and when I see fallacies repeated over and over again, it irks me and as I have mentioned in the title, just created a small post to correct it.
I am not really talking about God here. I am , as the title says, correcting a logical flaw which keeps appearing in this forum..
Adrain does not agree that a thing can create a more complex thing. I give this possible scenario of the future.
It is certainly conceivable(sp) That one day, humans can create a robot, with memory and processing power far greater than the human brain.
There you go.
"The problem is that ephrium is not talking about a process- he is talking about an actual entity, "God," which is less complex than its creation. Which is, and I'm agreeing with what others have said, really unlikely. For a creator god to have actually gone through the act of creating EVERYTHING else, then that entity must be able to not only conceive of what it is creating, but have the power to create it all. If that is not an argument for creator being of greater complexity than what is created then I am confused. "
Not exactly too. I have high IQ, as I have mentioned in another post, and when I see fallacies repeated over and over again, it irks me and as I have mentioned in the title, just created a small post to correct it.
I am not really talking about God here. I am , as the title says, correcting a logical flaw which keeps appearing in this forum..
(February 22, 2009 at 4:35 pm)moodydaniel Wrote:(February 21, 2009 at 10:33 am)Ephrium Wrote: I have read numerous posts saying that a creator has to be at least as complex and frequently more complexed than the things being created.I'd agree that complex things can arise from simple creators.
Evolution consits merely of DNA errors vetted by natural selection for improvement. This has created the wonderful complexity we see in the living word.
What i don't see is the importance of whether the creating force is more or less complexed than the creations it produces. Why is this important? It proves nothing as we have examples of both to draw upon.
