(September 8, 2015 at 8:28 pm)abaris Wrote:Ah, thank you for the clarification (though I did mean her, I know it's possessive in that case, don't know why I typed that wrong).(September 8, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Aroura Wrote: And yes, Ihr is confusing because it can mean she, they, and you, with the verb being my best clue as tow which Ihr it is. I think it's one of those things that we will just learn as we hear it in use more and more.
No, no, no. I never means she. It can only mean her's. For female items as well as persons. And then there's the adress. To give a simple example, think of "your wellbeing". If you aren't close to the person, the polite adress is "Ihr Wohlbefinden". If you are friends or otherwise close to the person, it would be "dein Wohlbefinden". Another hurdle for english natives, since the adress differs between close and removed.
So I hear "ihr trinkt wasser" or "sie trinken wasser" and for the life of me, I will always think the first one means they drink water, even though it is "you" drink water. Then with sie, I'm jumping to it always being "her" and forgetting it can also mean "they" when combined with the "en" on the end of a verb.
Wow, is there some way to clarify the pronouns relationships to their verbs? Because really, it's very specifically pronoun with correct verb usage I'm struggling with, I think. At least in these early stages, lol. I probably just need to keep listening to it being used by natural speakers.
Yes, since English does not contain any differences when speaking with a stranger or speaking with a close friend or family, that aspect is indeed adding to the confusion. I do not know if I'm learning the close or removed version of a phrase.
Sorry, I'm really new to this (we did it for a few weeks last year, but really want to be serious about it this year), so I'm probably making a lot of serious newb errors. I hope I don't sound completely retarded to the German speakers here.

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