RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 9, 2015 at 2:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2015 at 2:44 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(September 9, 2015 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(September 9, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Then why is it only symbols you approve of which get to be on public land? Who made you the arbiter?
Keep your bloody religion in your homes and churches and you'll have no trouble from me.
As I said, I don't care about this or other symbols being on public land. But putting a symbol that came from the Christian/Jewish religion to represent evil, right next to a Christian/Jewish symbol, is a clear and deliberate sign of hostility towards an entire group of people. And that's the part I don't agree with.
But that's exactly the point, CL. It is a symbol chosen specifically to demonstrate why having religious monuments, even Christianity, displayed as part of our public buildings is a problem. It is hostile to us when Christians try to assert their cultural dominance by placing their monuments on our public buildings. Showing Christians that it's not cool, using the same methodology, is more important than violating the precept of not offending others' religious beliefs, especially those who aren't willing to respect the neutrality of government with respect to their own.
You're quite correct, that both images are taken from the Bible (well, technically Baphomet is derivative of a much older concept), and they're equally wrong to have up there in a public space. Unfortunately, the only way to get most Christians to see the problem that the rest of us see clearly is to use a symbol specifically tailored to raise their indignation.
And though I know that it's not exactly the point you were trying to make, I'd nevertheless be careful as a Christian, when you start to denounce other faith-groups for stealing religious symbols.
http://relijournal.com/christianity/borr...istianity/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Paganism
I'm just sayin'.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
