(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: I have seen some atheists who would say they don't care much either way, and some who seem to be evangelistic. It's a big group, just like in Christianity you wouldn't say "Christians hate gay people" because while there is a group of "Christians" of about 200 in Kansas that does, there are tens of millions of Christians in denominations that gladly welcome gays and lesbians with no reservations, treating them just like anybody else.
This is true for the majority of any social group i would think?
(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: So when I have questions like, "why do atheists think this?" please keep in mind that I mean, why do some atheists think that way? I want to avoid sounding like I'm lumping you all together, I recognize there are many different groups within atheism. So what was on my mind was, "what do atheists think of the church?" But let me clarify that.
It is not that there are "atheists" as there are...baptists, methodists, mormons, anglicans or catholics, jews (assorted varieties) muslims (even MOOR assorted varieties).
Atheism = No God/s believed in ...PERIOD
(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: I was wondering: What do you personally think of the Christian church, or some specific groups within it?
Which of the above varieties are you referring to?
(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: and also, What do you see as the typical atheist view of the Church?
Precursor to an online social network
(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: Do you think there are any good things about having the church around?
Great for pedophiles, murderers, rapist, thieves thugs and the power hungry
(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: Do you think it's largely neutral or irrelevant?
The church?? or Religion in general???
(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: Do you think it's a very negative thing? Is the Church something that has to be opposed, or can you coexist with?
Can YOU coexist with something that robs YOU of your right to free thinking??
Retardation of the species called man. Causing more of the grief it has spread over the past 2000years of darkness.
(November 10, 2010 at 3:37 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: I know that's a bundle of questions, but anything you want to jump in on is fine. In this thread once again I'm trying to understand how you see things, so I won't be rebutting any posts. However you can feel free to ask me any questions about our differing views of the church. I've had a lot of exposure to a lot of different church traditions so maybe I can offer a different perspective than you've traditionally heard. In any case I really appreciate how much input I've gotten, and I look forward to hearing from you.
Thankyou for your kind offer. I am thinking that why "atheists" (as you conceptualise the term) argue with religious doctrine and it's exponents is that some of us just can't take the hypocritical idiocy anymore, the rest just can't be fook'd
Hope this helps you
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