(September 14, 2015 at 2:16 pm)robvalue Wrote: All of it. If we're talking about the very fabric of our perceived reality, we can do nothing more than speculate. We can reach no conclusions.
i'm sorry, but you'll have to specify your objections and give reasons for them. you can't just blandly call it all 'speculation' you'll have to point out what's speculative and explain why... do you know how criticism works?
robvalue Wrote:For one thing, this could all be dream in which your logic seems sound to you but is in fact bat shit crazy.if the logic is sound, then the conclusion is true. who cares how 'crazy' you think it is.
robvalue Wrote:So we would only actually be discussing the dream world, and not "reality". Whatever that means.given monistic idealism is true, this 'dream world' would be reality. the only things that exist would be mind and subjective experience of mind.
robvalue Wrote:Your logic could show there are no minds in the dream world, yet there could be minds in the "real" world.you'll have to explain that one. what exactly is this distinction between dream world and real world? idealism and materialism can't both be true.
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