RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
September 17, 2015 at 9:26 am
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2015 at 9:30 am by Captain Scarlet.)
(September 16, 2015 at 10:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(September 16, 2015 at 9:24 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Because Idealism would be a manifestation of the state of the greater mind as outlined by AKD. So no matter what happens, it has no bearing on the real mind as all we are experiencing is just a manifestation of that mind (if I understand it correct). Therefore whether in this "reality" you live to be a world leader or a serial rapist, is meaningless to the "real mind".
These things don't have objective meaning in a physicalist view, either. Idealism doesn't mean Sky Daddy, it means that the fundamental nature of reality is an expression of universal concepts, rather than concepts being an approximation of some other reality.
I think current physics supports this view, by the way. Try and define, in physical terms, what a photon is, for example. You'll end up with something definable ONLY in conceptual terms, and which cannot be modeled or represented in 3 dimensions or 4 in any meaningful way. Sounds like an idea to me.
This appears to be the rather lazy and armchair line of reasoning employed by Deepak Chopra. The essence of it is that Idealism is sppoky, mysterious and hard to understand, Quantum Theory (QT) is spooky, mysterious and hard to understand. Therefore QT supports Idealism. You have to work a lot harder to connect Idealism and QT. From my rather limited understanding of QT it does nothing at all to validate Idealism, whatever strange and spooky physics exists, it is part of our natural world be it 4, 10 or 11 dimensions, be it packets of energy, strings and branes or solid particles.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.