Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 12, 2026, 11:45 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
(September 16, 2015 at 10:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(September 16, 2015 at 9:24 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Because Idealism would be a manifestation of the state of the greater mind as outlined by AKD.  So no matter what happens, it has no bearing on the real mind as all we are experiencing is just a manifestation of that mind (if I understand it correct).  Therefore whether in this "reality" you live to be a world leader or a serial rapist, is meaningless to the "real mind".

These things don't have objective meaning in a physicalist view, either.  Idealism doesn't mean Sky Daddy, it means that the fundamental nature of reality is an expression of universal concepts, rather than concepts being an approximation of some other reality.

I think current physics supports this view, by the way.  Try and define, in physical terms, what a photon is, for example.  You'll end up with something definable ONLY in conceptual terms, and which cannot be modeled or represented in 3 dimensions or 4 in any meaningful way.  Sounds like an idea to me.

This appears to be the rather lazy and armchair line of reasoning employed by Deepak Chopra.  The essence of it is that Idealism is sppoky, mysterious and hard to understand, Quantum Theory (QT) is spooky, mysterious and hard to understand.  Therefore QT supports Idealism.  You have to work a lot harder to connect Idealism and QT.  From my rather limited understanding of QT it does nothing at all to validate Idealism, whatever strange and spooky physics exists, it is part of our natural world be it 4, 10 or 11 dimensions, be it packets of energy, strings and branes or solid particles.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist - by Captain Scarlet - September 17, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist - by Cato - September 18, 2015 at 12:16 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  The Cosmological Proof LinuxGal 53 15215 September 24, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Last Post: LinuxGal
  Does a natural "god" maybe exist? Skeptic201 19 5533 November 27, 2022 at 7:46 am
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  does evil exist? Quill01 51 12513 November 15, 2022 at 5:30 am
Last Post: h4ym4n
  Understanding the rudiment has much to give helps free that mind for further work. highdimensionman 16 4031 May 24, 2022 at 6:31 am
Last Post: highdimensionman
  Do Chairs Exist? vulcanlogician 93 24260 September 29, 2021 at 11:41 am
Last Post: vulcanlogician
  [Serious] Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. spirit-salamander 75 19894 May 3, 2021 at 12:18 pm
Last Post: Neo-Scholastic
  A 'proof' of God's existence - free will mrj 54 16833 August 9, 2020 at 10:25 am
Last Post: Sal
  Proof that I'm immortal Shantideva 64 14746 September 11, 2018 at 7:03 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  How to change a mind Aroura 0 691 July 30, 2018 at 8:13 am
Last Post: Aroura
  The Philosophy of Mind: Zombies, "radical emergence" and evidence of non-experiential Edwardo Piet 82 28971 April 29, 2018 at 1:57 am
Last Post: bennyboy



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)