RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
September 19, 2015 at 3:47 am
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2015 at 3:57 am by Captain Scarlet.)
(September 18, 2015 at 6:09 pm)Rational AKd Wrote: ...it's an analogic parody. ..
Quote:what is with you people with your accusations of 'word salad' whenever you don't understand something? I think I answered you quite clearly. your only "argument!" you had in that post besides your epic grammar correction fail, was a claim "To say you do not live in an objectively real world, is to say you live in a fantasy world, whether you created or someone else did."
I addressed this clearly and directly saying "it really doesn't matter whether you consider it real or not. the point is it functions like a real world, thus you would interact in it with the same functional purposes as a real world."
so i'm not being evasive in any sense of the word... my direct response was if it functions like a real world, you interact with it like a real world. thus there's no reason to 'separate your body from your neck' just because the world is not actually real
Let me help you out then, the matrix is NOT real.
Right and you failed to respond to it, instead prefering to think you won an argument on a point of English. The fact you ramble on about it instead of explaining your fantasy world is telling. This is because your position requires you to say reality is not real, or existence does not exist. Both these positions are self refuting so you choose instead to try and use terms like "functional" to make your position sound reasonable instead of absurd.
Maybe, just maybe if others think you are not being clear and think you are choosing to serve up a word salad the fault isn't only with others. To say "I live in a world that is 'functionally real' but not 'objectively real'.." and to defend it by saying it functions like the matrix or is some video game projected from the mind of god or some similar nonsense is I'm afraid as cohrent, to me, as saying "I am distimming a gobschmeck".
In other words it is far more likely that you are projecting your own fantasies onto the real world, then turn round and deny the real world because you prefer your fantasies, and blame others for not grasping the deep truth of your idealism. OK believe what you like, don't expect it to be compelling though.
PS it is the convention to capitalise the first letter after a full stop! Can we get on with the points now?
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.