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How do you become an Atheist?
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RE: How do you become an Atheist?
(November 12, 2010 at 9:38 pm)Strongbad Wrote: Ok, I understand that you are a Christian Disciple. I assume that this also means that you believe that the Gospels are the "word of god". Why do you believe this?

OK, just remembered to post my response, sorry for the delay!

First of all I begin with the viewpoint that all I'm interested in is the truth. If it's not true, why would I waste my time believing it? As I outlined I believe in what I can see as being the most true at every level.
Secondly, I see no reason to assume there is no God beforehand. The physical universe we live in exists, but that doesn't tell us anything either way right off the bat. Why? Do fish know they're wet? Do we have a word for being soaked in breathable atmosphere? We can probably think of one, like "dry," but most people think of dry as simply not being wet. The point is, we take the environment we live in for granted, because that's just how it is. How do we know this isn't the kind of universe a Creator would create? What other universe are we comparing it to?

So my basic approach to everything is: always seek the truth in its most complete form and hold all views equal until proven otherwise (as in belief in God vs. Naturalism). Because I see Christianity to be the most true thing in explaining the story of man and the universe, giving purpose in life, and making logical sense out of existence, as well as having a subjective experience of God and His positive effects on my life, I am inclined to believe that Christianity must in some way be true.

As for the Gospels, do I believe that God just read the finished text of the Gospels off to the writers of the Gospels so they could jot it down word for word? No. Do I believe that Jesus really lived and taught and did pretty much what we see in the Gospels? Absolutely, it makes historical sense too. Do I believe the Gospels could have been inspired by the Holy Spirit? Sure thing, it doesn’t mean they were possessed when they were writing, just that the Spirit guided them to write the right things. Of course they were still human, and their own experience and style will show through the text, but the end result is a book that shows me how to live and understand the universe.

That’s a big part of the proof of the Gospels for me, the effect on my life. I am excited about my life, and the world seems to make more sense, and I genuinely enjoy helping people and getting involved with causes*. I believe the Gospel commands me to be open minded and loving towards everyone, to respect the rights of everyone**, and respect the environment that we all share. I also believe that the Gospel teaches us to be passionate about social justice, so that we can end evils like war*** and poverty. Also I feel that my relationship with God has helped me finally understand who I am, move past some personal issues, and regain my sense of self worth.

That’s just an outline for my stance, but there is a lot more material to cover. For some more nit-picky details of my stance on the Gospel check out the thread Bart D. Ehrman - The Bane of Fundies! (http://atheistforums.org/thread-5172.html).

*(Everyone check out Charity: Water, it’s a group that digs wells for people in Africa without clean drinking water, it’s not religiously affiliated either. Charitywater.org)
**(Everyone should look into boycotting Coca-Cola, their human rights track record is horrendous. I heard a pastor/human rights advocate talk about how Coke is devastating the country of Columbia. Killercoke.org)
***(I’m a big believer in Just Peacemaking, it’s already helped prevent war and it has the potential to be supported by all three Abrahamic religions. justpeacemaking.org)
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How do you become an Atheist? - by coffeeveritas - November 8, 2010 at 5:51 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Darwinian - November 8, 2010 at 6:08 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - November 8, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 8, 2010 at 6:17 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Ace Otana - November 8, 2010 at 6:30 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Paul the Human - November 8, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by coffeeveritas - November 9, 2010 at 11:03 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - November 12, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 14, 2010 at 5:36 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 8, 2010 at 6:38 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Autumnlicious - November 8, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 8, 2010 at 7:34 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2010 at 9:29 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 8, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Minimalist - November 8, 2010 at 9:16 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 9, 2010 at 3:20 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 9, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 9, 2010 at 4:58 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 9, 2010 at 5:50 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Zen Badger - November 9, 2010 at 7:24 am
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by DeistPaladin - November 9, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 9, 2010 at 4:41 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by DeistPaladin - November 9, 2010 at 5:01 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Skipper - November 9, 2010 at 8:08 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Lethe - November 11, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Minimalist - November 11, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 12:36 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 1:39 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 5:03 pm
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 5:22 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 5:26 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 5:28 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Minimalist - November 12, 2010 at 2:32 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 6:06 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 6:11 pm
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 7:09 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 7:33 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 12, 2010 at 8:23 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 8:56 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - November 13, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Paul the Human - November 12, 2010 at 6:52 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Strongbad - November 12, 2010 at 7:52 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by coffeeveritas - November 12, 2010 at 9:26 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Strongbad - November 12, 2010 at 9:38 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by coffeeveritas - November 13, 2010 at 2:49 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by coffeeveritas - November 15, 2010 at 3:51 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Ashendant - December 4, 2010 at 10:24 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by downbeatplumb - December 4, 2010 at 11:27 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 7:54 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Strongbad - November 12, 2010 at 8:26 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 8:42 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Strongbad - November 12, 2010 at 9:13 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 13, 2010 at 7:12 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Strongbad - November 13, 2010 at 9:55 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Skipper - November 13, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 13, 2010 at 7:40 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2010 at 12:41 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2010 at 6:31 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Minimalist - November 13, 2010 at 7:56 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 13, 2010 at 8:08 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by downbeatplumb - November 14, 2010 at 6:32 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Cando - November 14, 2010 at 7:12 am
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by theVOID - December 14, 2010 at 1:18 am
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Light of Truth - December 14, 2010 at 1:28 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by LWP17 - December 14, 2010 at 2:20 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Light of Truth - December 14, 2010 at 2:37 am
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Light of Truth - December 14, 2010 at 2:47 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Justtristo - December 14, 2010 at 5:04 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Light of Truth - December 14, 2010 at 5:37 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Justtristo - December 14, 2010 at 5:41 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Light of Truth - December 14, 2010 at 5:45 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Justtristo - December 14, 2010 at 5:47 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Loki_999 - December 14, 2010 at 4:48 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by lilyannerose - December 14, 2010 at 12:04 pm
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by LWP17 - December 14, 2010 at 3:40 pm
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Minimalist - January 1, 2011 at 1:14 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Captain Scarlet - January 1, 2011 at 9:17 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Edwardo Piet - January 1, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Ashendant - January 1, 2011 at 10:26 am
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RE: How do you become an Atheist? - by Edwardo Piet - January 1, 2011 at 12:21 pm
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