(September 20, 2015 at 5:55 am)TheThinkingCatholic Wrote:(September 20, 2015 at 5:44 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I didn't change the subject. You made a bald assertion that the reason atheists are atheists is because we're afraid of God's moral judgment. (no that's not what I said.I said What people reject is the idea of a Creator who demands morality from His creation. Rather than struggle against a guilty conscience, some people reject the idea of God altogether.Am talking about some atheist's not everyone.)
But I find your God, as described by the Bronze Age priests who made him up, to be a morally repugnant concept.
It is beneath my own sense of moral behavior toward my fellow humans.
I find the religion you push degrading to humanity and morally offensive.
It is compounded when you come here, onto our forum, making false claims about atheists.
From here I pick up another question.
Is God made up?
Is Religion degrading society?
Did you miss the part I just stated, right after your blue font?
How can I have a guilty conscience about not following the commands of a being whose entire persona and whose commands I find morally repugnant. They are morally beneath the dignity of reasoning, educated, and decent human beings. Your God is not just made up, he is a monster created by a barbaric people.
You have already demonstrated that you believe Hell is the destination for those who don't believe your Bronze Age fable. This alone is sufficient reason for me to reject your God as a barbaric monster. To posit that it is not enough to just let me die like every other mammal on the planet, but that I must be tortured for all eternity for my disobedience, places your deity into the moral category of a rapist, demanding submissive obedience under threat of the worst type of violence I could even conceive to describe.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
