RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
September 20, 2015 at 8:11 pm
(This post was last modified: September 20, 2015 at 8:26 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Because it doesn't "add nothing"..as you so eloquently described in your last post, Benny. It's added a great deal, you owe every facet of your modern life to the notion (both the notions of an exterior world and the notion that this world is material), and the foundations upon which that notion is built. If we're wrong about that..and we could be...we've been pretty damned lucky that it all works as though we were right. Just going with the implied similarity. Your electricity doesn't work "because sky daddy" or "because idealism"...but it -does work-......"because materialism". That's the model that we've leveraged to provide the effect...even if it's wrong, inexplicably, but possibly.
-and no, again, you don't get any evidence -from- materialism when arguing -against- materialism, its fallacious reasoning cut and dry. Did you use your google or no? If you would use -as true- what you would argue to be false, to demonstrate the truth of your proposition, to provide evidence of the truth of your proposition...you are not using logic. Stolen concept, or "indirectly self refuting idea". It's a thing, I'm not just giving you shit or trying to be difficult, lol.
I'll restate....neither QM nor QFT strain materialism, they are -built- from that position, entirely steeped in that position, and in no way arguing -against- that position....our "best observations" -as you've just called them-..are it's crowning achievement.....this is why I've always been so confused by your position and means of argumentation.
-and no, again, you don't get any evidence -from- materialism when arguing -against- materialism, its fallacious reasoning cut and dry. Did you use your google or no? If you would use -as true- what you would argue to be false, to demonstrate the truth of your proposition, to provide evidence of the truth of your proposition...you are not using logic. Stolen concept, or "indirectly self refuting idea". It's a thing, I'm not just giving you shit or trying to be difficult, lol.
I'll restate....neither QM nor QFT strain materialism, they are -built- from that position, entirely steeped in that position, and in no way arguing -against- that position....our "best observations" -as you've just called them-..are it's crowning achievement.....this is why I've always been so confused by your position and means of argumentation.
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