RE: A doctrine of alienation
September 22, 2015 at 10:40 am
(This post was last modified: September 22, 2015 at 11:28 am by Drich.)
(September 21, 2015 at 1:49 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(September 21, 2015 at 1:02 pm)Drich Wrote: I'm doing good, fell out of the shower and hurt my back last sunday, but other than that I'll be ok till 12-18-15 (if I remember correctly) this is the day I go in for more tests. Then once a year forever after that, till something shows up iguess.
Oh, man, I hope you feel better soon. Back injuries suuuuuck! The older I get, the more I realize that using a quadruped-type spine in a biped may not have been evolution's best outcome.
I'm sorry you're in pain.
Also, though I'm not a part of that exchange, I read it, and while I agree with most of your scriptural interpretations as presented there (though you left out a few of Paul's writings about female submission, I can understand why, as it might've created a distracting discussion of modern feminism vs. Paulian values), and disagree with several of your social conclusions, I want to say thank you for speaking to us respectfully and as equals, capable of understanding the verses (few Christians will do this, here), and wanting to have a real discussion about it. I hope that it remains civil on both ends.
Here's the thing.. Most of the core members know that I make a very great effort in speaking to everyone on equal terms. When the conversation is respectful I in turn show that same respect. However when it becomes harsh I to also become harsh. It is a 'do unto others' in practice.
That said I have no disillusion about Paul mandating a man's role in the marriage is to be over the woman. I am simply pointing out that this dominance is not to benfit the man for his personal gain. That we take on the role of Christ and the wife takes on the role of the church. We are supposed to love, respect and direct our wives as Christ so loves, respects and directs the church.
What was going on with Lucky's dad, was not a biblical example of the mandate Paul set fourth. In said mandate we are not meant to be equal partners. We are to fill roles, and these roles have guidelines and responsibilities we must honor. If we each fill our role correctly no one person rises over the other. But rather the two separate people become one whole unified being that brings honor love and respect to God and to ourselves.
