Apologetics open challenge

[robvalue]

Oh yeah. The 5 ways is yet another attempt to waltz past the earliest point science can model with everyday naive notions about cause and effect which don't even stand up particularly well in quantum mechanics right now. I can forgive it since it was written a long time ago.

It's no different to the Kalam, it just tries to set up apparent paradoxes and then special pleads something into existence to fix the paradox.

It seems to show a discomfort with an infinite past and an infinite chain of events also, which amounts to an argument from incredulity.

If you don't want to address these points here, and think this is really worth a debate, I'll consider it.