(November 20, 2010 at 11:33 pm)tackattack Wrote: the effectiveness of faith is based on faith and trying to measure that empirically to objectify it is a little ridiculous.Oh its not ridiculous at all. It is not the atheist who claims that there is a personal god who is capable of intervening in the material world. Infact the lack of evidence found for any such events, including prayer efficacy, is an excellent emprical demonstration of the abject failure of that position. If you retreat to faith then OK you could still be left with deism, but not a personal god.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
