Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: March 3, 2025, 10:30 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Is the Atheism/Theism belief/disbelief a false dichotomy? are there other options?
#8
RE: Is the Atheism/Theism belief/disbelief a false dichotomy? are there other options?
Of course, once you get down to it, we aren't certain of anything except that "we" are experiencing "something". We can't be certain what "we" actually are, or what the "something" actually is. That's as far as certainty can possibly go. I am not certain anything I experience is real, I'm not even convinced it is. I just have to assume it is, and get on with it.

After this, we're down to beliefs. Very strong beliefs we would consider knowledge on an individual level; as a society, we consider knowledge to be that which can be demonstrated objectively beyond reasonable doubt and individual beliefs about it are irrelevant. So the "pool of knowledge" is different to what we individually claim we know. It doesn't really matter what we claim to know, if we can't demonstrate it to others.

I wouldn't worry too much. It sounds like you're generally an atheist. Atheist totally includes all the "doubt" areas. It is 2 of the 3 positions:

Are you convinced there is a god? Y/N
Are you convinced there is no god? Y/N

Y = theist
N, N, = weak atheist (uncertain/undecided/unknowable!)
N, Y = strong atheist

It could well be that you do have moments of theism, though. It's hard for me to say without looking into your brain Big Grin Beliefs do change, and there's nothing in theory to stop them changing rapidly between two different things.

Could you convince someone that it's reasonable to believe in god? Is there enough objective evidence? If not, then you can be fairly sure your belief is not grounded in logic but rather in emotion. For one thing, can you even define god in such a way that it's possible to distinguish it from nothing at all?

[Plenty more edits! Big Grin ]
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.

Index of useful threads and discussions
Index of my best videos
Quickstart guide to the forum
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Is the Atheism/Theism belief/disbelief a false dichotomy? are there other options? - by robvalue - October 2, 2015 at 5:16 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Science and Theism Doesn't Work out right? Hellomate1234 28 2141 November 7, 2024 at 8:12 am
Last Post: syntheticadrenaline
  Sexual Abuse in Social Context: Clergy and other (Secular) Professionals. Nishant Xavier 61 6290 July 16, 2023 at 1:54 pm
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead. Authari 301 32980 January 27, 2023 at 7:45 am
Last Post: Peebothuhlu
  How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm... Gentle_Idiot 75 9579 November 23, 2022 at 5:34 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Atheism, theism, agnosticism, gnosticism, ignosticism Simon Moon 25 3233 October 29, 2022 at 4:49 pm
Last Post: LinuxGal
  Moral universalism and theism Interaktive 20 2820 May 6, 2022 at 7:23 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Comparing Theism with Flat-Earthism FlatAssembler 26 3086 December 21, 2020 at 3:10 pm
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  How many of you know that there is atheism in Sanatana Dharma ? hindu 19 2894 June 7, 2020 at 11:25 pm
Last Post: Paleophyte
  Maybe there's something like a god out there. Ryantology 38 4266 June 5, 2020 at 8:42 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Protection Against the Wiles of Theism Rhondazvous 9 1942 April 7, 2019 at 7:03 pm
Last Post: Rhondazvous



Users browsing this thread: 6 Guest(s)