RE: Oregon Shooting - Guess why?
October 2, 2015 at 9:07 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2015 at 9:08 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(October 2, 2015 at 8:25 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The OP is part right and part wrong. The dominant narrative of a few vocal AF members will downplay the anti-Christion rhetoric of the shooter or try to explain it away. A fair minded reader will see little difference between the shooter's rants and a few I've seen that earned multiple kudos.
However there really is no way to know if his bigotry was the cause or symptom of his hostility.
You really need to do something about the hate in your heart, Chad. I don't want to see you end up like this guy who shot at Christians, in the other direction.
I'm sure his bigotry was the cause as well as a symptom. When you turn those who disagree with you into caricatures of themselves, in order to demonize them, you become like him. For all that you constantly accuse us of being hateful toward Christians (a few of us are, I grant), most of us are just annoyed at assholery, which is typically directed at us by Christians, and we react to it. When you come here constantly mischaracterizing us in the worst way, and in the worst rhetoric you can manage, it tells me you have very deep-seated problems in your psyche with regard to those who do not share your faith-view.
For most of us here, the animus toward Christianity is a symptom of a lifetime of abuse and derision from the Christian majority, which we return in contempt, derision, and sometimes hostility. But for the person who stands in the clear majority, who could go his whole life comfortably without having to deal with one single atheists's intervention in his life (provided he does not try to impose religion on another, which an atheist feels compelled to intervene to stop), it is simple bigotry and dominionism.
This guy was a strange fellow who dabbled in the occult and in Nazi ideology. He is in no way similar to us. That you even suggest so tells me that you may be closer to him than any of us will ever be. I am a little sad for you-- for a while there, you were showing signs of letting go of your hatred and anger, and I thought you might turn out to be a decent guy after all.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
