(October 8, 2015 at 10:28 am)KevinM1 Wrote:Damaging enviorment?!?! seriously? Why because people die? New flash we all die!!!(October 8, 2015 at 9:57 am)Drich Wrote:
Ok.. So in your world, you have a chance to spit in the eye of God before being sent to Hell, and the best you can come up with is "people are killing in your name what the Hell?"
What if he then shows you people kill for a whole lot less, and asks you what the Hell? And some how you come to understand the point that people kill, because they are murderous bastards first, then ascribe a trivial reason. And the earth was meant to be a place where people like that and people like you prove to yourself where your heart is. So you know when God sentences you to Hell you know because of your time here that the sentence was just.
Who has dyre killed again?
Moreover, your god is to blame for creating the murderous strawman you referenced, either directly or by placing them in an environment where it's more likely than not that they'll turn out that way. And what kind of benign creature would place another in a potentially damaging environment and torture them for not rising above it? Or decide that lesser creatures' disbelief in it - when it hasn't provided verifiable evidence of its existence - is deserving of eternal torture? And where's the justice in a one-size-fits-all punishment? We're smart and compassionate enough to at least attempt to make the severity of punishment match the severity of the crime committed.
Your god is a cunt, Drich. A simple and petty thing for simple and petty people to point to as a justification for their state of being. Thankfully, it's not real.
Look at it from an eternal perspective. Let say that we all do have a soul, and that soul can indeed live forever despite how long our current bodies live.
To put it in simpler terms lets say the absolute worst thing/sin any one could commit was lying. Not even big lies but little white lies. (no Kevin, you don't look fat in your dress)
Then guess which sin moves up in your mind to replace the terrible henous act of murder? Murder is only our greatest most henous sin, because we don't have anything else to compare it to. Jesus even said Fear not the one who can destroy the body, but the one who can destroy the body and soul in Hell.
As bad as you think we have it here, where our bodies can died before 100 years at the hands of someone else, to a potentially immortal being the death of the body should be as trivial at a white lie, if you are willing to look at the big picture and not just you little corner of things.