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Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
(October 7, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I'm not saying they should know the Linnaean system.  I'm saying that they should know the difference between avians and mammals.
Facepalm Seriously?!?! Before 1735 their were no classifications of Mammals and Avians. Those words were literally coined in the English for the first time to describe the attributes Carl linneus decided made up that particular grouping or classification of animal. Do you not understand that before then 'mammals and avian' as a classification system did not exist?

So then how could anyone know that terminology? How could anyone make those distinctions? Again just because God knew does not mean He would burden the people he was speaking to at that time with those particular distinction. again look at the Parables Jesus taught. He used common knoweeledge to describe more complex things.

In that time their were much simpler classifications. Creatures that flew, creatures that crawled, creatures with legs which were subdivided into hooved creatures and split toed creatures. of those classification Moses was simply subdividing them further into 'clean and unclean.' "birds" is the English word used to describe the Hebrew word for 'winged creature.' In that classification system a bat does indeed qualify as a 'winged creature.'

Quote:Do you honestly think they were so stupid they couldn't tell?
You should ask yourself that. Meaning IF they had the terms "Avain and Mammal" would they not so classify them as such? But again No such words exist in the Hebrew or Greek, or better yet these words did not exist/come to mean what you understand them to mean till Carl formalized his 1735 work.

Quote:And even if they couldn't, wouldn't your god know? I mean, he's the one who issued those dietary restrictions. He's the one alleged to have created both classes in question.  When your god's knowledge is limited  by the knowledge of the culture that venerates him, that's a good indicator that he's an invention.
Again, if he used our terminology, who then would He be speaking to us or them? Who then would he have to demand to follow that law if infact He was speaking to us by using our terms? How then could he demand that they follow that law if He spoke in such away as to not be understood by those people at that time?

Quote:An all-knowing god could simply "inspire" the biblical author to say "don't eat these birds, and don't eat bats." Another option: he could actually show his followers something about the world they didn't know:
It's like talking to a retarded brick...
There was no word in the Hebrew that means "Birds"/Avians. Their word for 'Bird' does not speak to our taxonomlogical understanding of the word bird. Their word that we translate into bird means Winged Creature. They looked at the world differently than you do. They viewed it from a position of functionality, rather than genetic compatibility. when speaking from a position of genetic compatibility then you can group all genetically 'like' animals together. which gives you mammals, avaion, invertabrates, reptiles ect. The ancient Hebrews classified creatures by the way the moved and what they ate, and whether or not they could be eaten.

So again to call a bat a 'winged creature' and list them along side birds is not an incorrect classification.

Quote:"Hey, Mo, tell your people not to eat birds and bats."
"Birds and bats, Lord? aren't they the same?"
"Of course not, Moses. Look at a bat. Does it have a beak? How are its eyes located? Does it have feathers? What is its body shaped like? And do birds have teeth? Ears? claws on their wings?"
Does it have wings Mr. thinker? again that was the extent of their classification.

Quote:The Bible would be more useful if it taught something, anyway.
Again maybe to you and everyone since 1735, but what about the several thousand years and everyone who lived before? Especially when all it takes is a little friggen common sense to unlock this seeming mind blowing 'contradiction' to all those who come after.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused - by Drich - October 8, 2015 at 1:18 pm

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