(October 8, 2015 at 6:20 pm)Thena323 Wrote: If you don't mind my asking, what translation of the do Bible you use?It depends on what I am doing and to whom I am speaking. Personally I like the easy to read version, but I understand most don't so I will work with whatever translation people feel comfortable with so long as it is based of one of the three primary Codacees from which all translations are used.
Quote: I only ask because I've noticed that doctrine being 'flawed' is a claim that's frequently made by many theists.I know you are trying to trivialize the word "claim." But in this instance the bible (from the original greek) does not ever mention the term Original sin.
Quote:Drich
The 'Original Sin' did not happen between Man and God.
Quote:I understand this.Then we are agreed
Quote:Drich
The Sin that A&E Commited was to eat from the tree of the Knoweledge of Good and Evil. If anything this knowledge in of itself is not sin, it just makes one responsible for the sin they commit.
Quote:I also understand, according to the Bible, that everyone is responsible for the sin they commit. That wasn't my point, though.Because we have knowledge of the evil we do.
Quote:In my post above, I was pointing out that the Biblical God was the one that cursed mankind with a sinful nature.You got the first two point right, so how did you come to this?
I just found it odd that your God would afflict mankind by making humans predisposed to sin (through no fault of their own) and then offer a cure. Or choice, as you put it.
God gave man innocence from sin. Man elected to have the knowledge of Sin and evil. Because of this knowledge we are responsible for the sin and evil we do. God has turned us over to sin and evil if it is in our heart to live that way. However He has also provided attonement for our sin and evil if we choose not to live under the bondage of sin and evil. So in essence we can be sinful and still warrant eternal life through Christ.
The only caveat being you can not warrant eternal life, IF you love the sin you are in. You must turn from your sin and repent of it.