RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 10, 2015 at 12:37 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2015 at 12:38 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(October 10, 2015 at 12:17 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(October 10, 2015 at 10:51 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: It is you who have missed 3 very important points here.
1. This is an atheist forum. Religion is not respected here for its own sake. If your arguments cannot stand without fiat credulity, we will ridicule them. If you want your religious views to be respected then you should go to a Christian web forum.
2. God set Adam up in the first place. Why should a man who has no sense of right and wrong be punished? Even after Adam's so-called fall, we were doing fine, working together peacefully at the tower of Babel. Your god saw this and was so intimidated by what we might accomplish that he confused our language. Jesus' death is like a doctor who makes you sick only so you can feel grateful when he makes you well.
3. Based on what the Bible itself says, we can only conclude that the god Christians have created hates humanity and even created us for the specific purpose that he needed something to hate. Example?
God doesn't do things out of love or justice. As one poster called him, that "draconian psychopath" does things because he has the power and no one can stop him.
Bravo Rhonda! Brilliant response.
May I add a picture?
Meh... a tin can in Low Earth Orbit is no big deal. God can tolerate that.
Maybe they were building this:
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Quick! Cancel NASA's funding now!! GOD WILLS IT!!!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.