Bible way to Heaven

[Redbeard The Pink]

Let's break up the argument.

Oh boy...this should be good...

Now this is where you go wrong, God wants you to have a high morality and follow him. Simple wording.

Ok, Catholic boy...how much do you like your current pope? He says atheists can totally get into heaven on works alone, and his utterances are supposed to be inerrant messages from Gaud, right? That's your theology, isn't it? How good a Catholic are you?


I realize there is some debate as to what he actually meant, but if that's the case, why would that be? Wouldn't Gaud's infallible messenger be able to communicate effectively enough that there's no argument about what he means when he says things? Oh, who am I kidding? Of course not.

Your suggesting, why can’t one just be Good and go to heaven, As Paul explains in Philippians 2:13, "God is the one, who, for his good purpose, works in you both to desire and to work. “Notice that Paul's words presuppose that the faithful Christian is not just desiring to be righteous, but is actively working toward it. James 2:17 reminds us that "faith of itself, if it does not have work, is dead." In verse 24 James says, "See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." And later: "For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead" (2:26).

Yes, and your stupid little book also says that "all who believe in their hearts and confess with their mouths will be saved." In context with everything else, this is often interpreted to mean that faith alone is the key to salvation, but if that faith does not produce works then it's obviously not real faith and Gaud will know and he'll JUUUUUDGE you. Maybe Catholics don't believe that, but plenty of Christians do.

No, human morality is corrupted by sin, but we are not to give up if we did then that’s sin, but if we did then we can trust on God’s mercy and by putting the effort of a confession.

No. Human morality is corrupted by religion. Check.

God is not limited to anything, he can do whatever he wants and you have no right to say what he should be doing.

Good...then you admit that Gaud's morality and standards are subject to his whim, and morality is therefore subjective and not objective. We'll come back to that.

You, miss the point here that nobody’s good, we are saved by grace we have all sinned, like I said before we are without excuse since we sin too (Romans 3:23; 5:12), and we all deserve death before a perfect Holy God. To assume Adam’s descendants are innocent is a false assumption. Due to the sin nature received from Adam, death is coming for all since all have sinned (Romans 3:23).

A perfectly holy god who arbitrarily sets and changes his morals and standards, saves evil people just because of what they believed, condemns good people simply for a fully justified lack of belief, and is allegedly responsible for more death, destruction, and atrocity (at least on Earth) than any other being in the Universe? That shit is dripping with Paradox, yo.

Even if there good evidence one can simply ignore it or simply not look for it, it does make sense to you because you do not have faith.

Ummm...what? Other people might be nice enough to fix your fucked up English, but seriously, learn the damn language if you're going to address me. Not being able to spell is one thing, but you're not even getting your basic thoughts across properly.