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Worthy of worship, free will?
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RE: Worthy of worship, free will?
What the fuck has God got to do with an ultimate cause? lol.

No I just mean that the universe has causality and I am not talking about the quantum level I already explained how indeterminism doesn't give us free will any easier.

Because the ultimate cause is unknowable doesn't mean we have to completely abandon causality. Nor does QM give us any special magic to make free will exist.

You are talking about putting it "in context" but all you're doing is throwing the baby out with the bathwater and ignoring the bigger picture simply because we cannot understand it 100%. The buck doesn't stop where you want it to stop it never stops. It doesn't stop just because you want it to, you don't get to select the context and define free will into existence without becoming a comptabilist and I'm not even attacking compatabilsit free will right now remember I am attacking contra-causal libertrian free will which is taken seriously by virtually no one in philosophy. The majority are compatabilists but I like Sam Harris see compatabilism as a cop-out so I am also an incompatabilist.

You on the other hand are defending my attack on contra-causal libertarian free will which isn't rationally defensible.
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Worthy of worship, free will? - by Captain Scarlet - September 15, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 7, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Little lunch - October 7, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 7, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Anomalocaris - October 7, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 7, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by brewer - October 7, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 4:22 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by ignoramus - October 8, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Little lunch - October 8, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 9:56 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 10:06 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 11, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 7:06 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 12, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 9:11 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 2:21 pm

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