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A theist dilemma
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RE: A theist dilemma
I don't think any of this makes any sense.

(October 13, 2015 at 8:25 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: I am an atheist, and I say God exists.
If god actually existed, it would be delusional to be an atheist (in the same way that it's delusional to be an a-duck-ist).

Quote:I remain an atheist before, during and after making that statement. I do not believe in God, I say God exists.
Since belief follows individual conviction of the truth of a proposition, you would have to be mad or willfully ignorant to make this claim.

Quote:I cannot believe in God and claim to be an atheist, I cannot be an atheist and claim to believe in God.
 
That's correct and contradicts what you've just been saying... :bamboozled:

Quote:When I, as an atheist, state that God exists, my statement is dishonest,
It's dishonest if god doesn't exist.

I'm getting thoroughly confused now.

Quote: and God does not approve of dishonesty.
What disapproves? The god that doesn't exist or the god that does exist but you don't believe in?

Quote:When I, as an atheist, tell you that God exists, am I committing a sinful action?
Since we're talking about the Christian god, according to the bible you would be committing a sin if the lie wasn't mandated by god.

That doesn't matter if the god doesn't exist but it would matter if the god exists, even if you didn't believe in it.
Sum ergo sum
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Messages In This Thread
A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Chad32 - October 13, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by robvalue - October 13, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by brewer - October 13, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by brewer - October 13, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Longhorn - October 13, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by brewer - October 13, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 9:49 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by brewer - October 13, 2015 at 9:56 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Kingpin - October 13, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Kingpin - October 13, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Kingpin - October 13, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Kingpin - October 13, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Godschild - November 19, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by dyresand - November 19, 2015 at 12:56 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Athene - November 19, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by brewer - October 13, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Ben Davis - October 13, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by brewer - October 13, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Strider - October 13, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - October 13, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: A theist dilemma - by jason_delisle - November 18, 2015 at 8:56 pm
RE: A theist dilemma - by Nay_Sayer - November 19, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by Godschild - November 19, 2015 at 12:41 am
RE: A theist dilemma - by orangebox21 - November 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: A theist dilemma - by ApeNotKillApe - November 25, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: A theist dilemma - by Catholic_Lady - November 25, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: A theist dilemma - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 12:20 pm

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