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Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU
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RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU
October 15, 2015 at 8:28 am
(October 15, 2015 at 8:14 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(October 15, 2015 at 8:03 am)Dystopia Wrote: Pat is fundamentally right - It's amazing how he's not in jail, the EU is known for it's solely Pro-EU propaganda and discretely censoring people with anti-EU views - I'm not talking merely about far-right parties here, but all kinds of people with various degrees of political affinities who are anti-EU. Personally, I am pro-treaties with EU countries but without the EU as a political institution, Europeans have lots of differences between themselves and we simply will not get along.

The sooner Europe is one political entity the better as far as I'm concerned. The petty nationalism I see in my country is galling in the extreme to one who does not agree with the jingoism that seems to pervades facebook these days. The amount of hateful right wing propaganda I see all the time from people I thought were reasonable humans is getting me down.
Some of the comments are geting distinctly "third Reichy" and it seems to be getting worse every day.

The better for Germans, French and English, not for poor and weaker nations - Most countries never agreed to this and didn't know the drawbacks, the people didn't vote explicitly knowing what they were getting into and even if they did I think circumstances have changed. Aside from the less important linguistic differences, the EU will never work as a federation for historical and political reasons - A German citizen is different from a British citizen and so on, each requires different measures and political legislation. There is no valid historical reason to create a federation despite the possible advantages
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Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Reforged - October 15, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Reforged - October 15, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Lemonvariable72 - October 15, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 15, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Lemonvariable72 - October 15, 2015 at 7:26 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:03 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:14 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:28 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:35 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:37 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:20 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:30 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:30 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:35 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:54 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 9:02 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by I_am_not_mafia - October 15, 2015 at 10:24 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Ben Davis - October 15, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Ben Davis - October 15, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Ben Davis - October 15, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by I_am_not_mafia - October 15, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Reforged - October 15, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:51 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 1:13 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 4:15 pm

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