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Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU
Edwardo Piet Away
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RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU
October 15, 2015 at 8:49 am (This post was last modified: October 15, 2015 at 8:51 am by Edwardo Piet.)
downbeatplumb Wrote:This is the appropriate response.
But is it how people REALLY feel?

In the UK people like to think the UK is the best and that seems to be mirrored in the US with their Exceptionalism being pushed by Fox etc. What I have found is that people use nationalism as a stick to persecute others.
Down with nationalism I say.

Exactly how I feel DBP. Those who identify as nationalists and patriots in my experience and are also really serious about it are often like this.
Those who don't take it seriously often don't even bother with the label anyway and would only say they were patriotic if asked if they were... that's not the kind of pride for the country that bothers me. It's this kind where people are really serious about it. The actual use of "pride" in this manner doesn't really make sense, there are better words to use really... it's just become a thing to be proud of things when really it's more of an appreciation or respect rather than actual pride for something.

I mean even with children it is complex. If I had children I'd be very proud of everything they did. But even then it would really be about loving and appreciating them and besides that it would be vicarious pride on their behalf. The only other sense I could be proud was the part I played in raising them to be how they were... but I couldn't take full credit at all, they would take most of the credit for their achievements, not me.
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Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Reforged - October 15, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Reforged - October 15, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Lemonvariable72 - October 15, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 15, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Lemonvariable72 - October 15, 2015 at 7:26 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:03 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:14 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:28 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:35 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:37 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:20 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:30 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:30 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:35 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:54 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 9:02 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by I_am_not_mafia - October 15, 2015 at 10:24 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Ben Davis - October 15, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Ben Davis - October 15, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Ben Davis - October 15, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by I_am_not_mafia - October 15, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Reforged - October 15, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 12:51 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 1:13 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Dystopia - October 15, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by Minimalist - October 15, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU - by abaris - October 15, 2015 at 4:15 pm

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