(October 15, 2015 at 4:33 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(October 15, 2015 at 12:15 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: I don't think we should send legal migrants back who are already here but it does seem ridiculous we haven't closed the floodgates by now.
This is a complex issue and we are a nation that is far from full. I think people in cities get a distorted view of things like this.
How is "we're far from full" a reason for anything? There is no other country who is allowing this to happen and thats because they understand that its first priority is to look after its current citizens and their future generations. By the time we're full its a little redundant to close the floodgates. The level to which we've permitted migration is nothing short of absurd, it even exceeds the economic reasons for doing it. Its not even like we're just taking in highly educated individuals.
I want to make it clear I'm not a "nationalist". I consider the people already here British citizens but I was hard pressed to find anything inaccurate in alot of what he said. Their culture is fundamentally incompatible and most make no effort to bridge the gap.
What he said about a rape culture, ok, yes thats shocking and rather inappropriately dramatized. But is it inaccurate? Is what he said about their cultures concept of human rights inaccurate? Is it inaccurate to say the more people you bring over from that culture the more of that culture you bring over? Is anything he said actually inaccurate or is it simply incompatible with the world we want to live in? Can we actually look at whats going on in some of those other countries on a massive scale based on culture, not simply individual will, and say "Nope, he has no point whatsoever"?
And before someone says "Oh well theres alot of good people too...". Yes, ok. And? You don't make national decisions based on the behavior of afew, you make them based on current trends. Look at their leaders, look at their laws, look at their traditions, look at their behaviors once they get over here.
Lets stop basing conclusions on the world we want to live in and observe the one we do. Does this man have a point?
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