(October 18, 2015 at 11:26 am)Aractus Wrote:(October 18, 2015 at 10:04 am)Mermaid Wrote: Yes, it DOES matter. This sort of shit causes very real consequences. There have been measles outbreaks in the US in the last year. There is no excuse for this at all. It is not true that there aren't many anti-vaccination people. These assholes are putting people at very real, tangible risk of contracting PREVENTABLE diseases.
So what - who cares? It's fucking measles in a first-world country where there's almost no chance of mortality from it.
Did anyone at all actually die in the outbreak from measles?
So mortality is your measure? Measles is a VERY serious disease. It's not a hangnail. Do some reading.
Quote:Do you realise you're labelling everyone who didn't vaccinate as "assholes" when in fact many people who don't vaccinate their child have done so because of medical reasons, or other reasons that caused them to inadvertently miss a vaccination.Didn't and wouldn't say that, ever. I agree, there are people who cannot be vaccinated. THAT IS WHY EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO BE.
Quote:The MMR vaccine itself is the problem. It has the lowest rate among vaccinations - mostly due to medical concerns (i.e. people can't take it when sick), but also due to the fact that parents don't like it. It's too strong - many people want it to be split into two or three different vaccinations, if it was offered in that way instead of as a triple vaccination the immunisation rate would increase.What does "too strong" even mean? Have you ever taken immunology? vaccinology? Do you understand how vaccines work? What exactly is problematic about the MMR vaccine? You can't take ANY vaccine when you're sick or otherwise immunocompromised. There's a very good biological reason for this, and it is most definitely not specific to MMR.
Of course we want there to be less outbreaks of disease, but measles in a first world country really isn't as important as say whooping cough.
You mention whooping cough as a serious disease, this is ALSO on the rise because of the anti-vaccination movement.
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