RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 12:47 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 11:50 am)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 20, 2015 at 7:21 am)ignoramus Wrote: Agree with you guys ... If they truly believed in the bible and all the afterlife shit, then it should be the most important thing in the world to them!
But instead, 80% of the jails are full of Christians ... go figure... The problem is they cherry pick scripture like a true Christian and all is forgiven...
i am going to post a thread about this on christian forums website i wonder what they will say about it there im just going to very politely ask where it comes from since it did not come from jesus and address the main points and verses in my OP over there
(October 20, 2015 at 11:39 am)alpha male Wrote: Or maybe you should post it at a Christian forum.It's pretty pathetic be condesending to Christians for not addressing a point you made on an atheist forum.
But anyway, here's a place to start:
John 14
7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
yes i am going to start a thread on christian forums although there are christians here ..... yes jesus did have a relationship with God and was inspired by God but does distinguish that he was not God despite knowing God and despite Gods inspiration being in his mind "The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works."
Rather, Jesus distinguished that he was not the Father. The passage above is a clear claim to equality with the Father. As the Son, Jesus humbled Himself in His earthly ministry.