Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?

[jenny1972]

Hi Jenny,

Not all Christians believe in the doctrine of the Trinity; I have had a number of discussions with them (both categories of non-trinitarians).

One group, is going to cite a number of Scriptures, similar to your list here.  And they are going to come to many of the same conclusions that you have... Jesus is seperate and distinct from the Father, they interact, and Jesus submits to God the Father. 

The other group is going to point to a number of Scriptures and say that Jesus is God. They will show that Jesus behaves as if He is God, forgives sins, and teaches with authority.  Titles which only belong to God are attributed to Jesus, actions which where done by God, are claimed as Jesus, and Jesus is worshipped (you may note, often when some one fell down before one of the disciples or an angel, they where stopped.  The Pharisees often reacted as if Jesus was claiming to be God, When Jesus is being tempted in the wilderness, the devil recognized Jesus as the Son of God, and told Him to make the stone into bread.  This group, will then point to the oneness of God declared throughout  the scripture.  This group will often say that the Son and the Father are different aspects or faces of God.

Interestingly enough, I find that these two groups do not challenge each other.  Although I suppose that it is natural to focus on the more popular orthodox position.  The divinity of Christ is shown early in the Church.  The enemies of Christ recognized the claims and what they meant.  And also, I believe you are mistaken in stating the Bible does not call Jesus God (Hebrews 1:8 among others).

yes the title of my OP should have been Jesus does not call himself God , not the Bible does not call jesus God since antichrist pauls blasphemy has corrupted it and turned it into a cult very very early on . but christianity stayed pure and uncorrupted for a few years thats really all one can ask of any religion i suppose ...