RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:29 am
(October 21, 2015 at 1:14 am)robvalue Wrote: Alarmingly few Christians seem to be aware that the bible contains known forgeries. Those that are seem unconcerned.
As far as I'm aware, every reference made by Paul to "Jesus the human" is a forgery. He was not referring to a person at all, those words have been put in his mouth. So not only are there three Jesuses (synoptic, John and Paul) only two of them are even human. Paul referred almost certainly to a celestial being.
Not that the "original" accounts prove anything anyway. People can make up and write down any shit they want. Or they can be deluded.
Why would you think a man who claims he had a blinding vision on the side of a highway was deluded?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.