RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 22, 2015 at 10:55 am
(October 22, 2015 at 9:39 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Yeah, I just maaaaaaade that up. Douche. You're quoting from the Gospel of John, the non-synoptic gospel written nearly a century after his death (earliest possible is 60+ years later), in which he has been assigned magical abilities and divine nature not found in the earlier gospels.1. The OP quoted John, which of course makes it fair game. Note that I didn't go to Paul until OP opened that up.
2. Jesus was clearly portrayed as having miraculous powers in the synoptics.
3. The divine nature is found in the synoptics, it's just made more clearly in John.
Quote:And I am not remotely the first person to note that Jesus takes on Buddha-like qualities in the descriptions of his "divine nature"... the whole Trinitarian "Jesus = God" thing came later in church history; even though the view is almost ubiquitous, now, it was not always so. You're looking at it through rose-colored glasses.Yes, and some people think Jesus was modeled after Bacchus, or Mithras, or Osiris...every few years the name changes, but the similarities when examined are underwhelming.
Quote:If you'll take the glasses off and really LOOK, it's obvious that the writer of John is bridging the gap between the earlier, "mystical teacher of the path to enlightenment" (The Way) version of Jesus and the later, "I Am" version of Jesus-as-God.You're the one viewing it through a desired outcome. Jesus was much more than a "mystical teacher of the path to enlightenment" in the synoptics. He performed miracles, claimed to be the messiah, accepted worship, claimed to be the Lord of the Sabbath, etc. He was not just a teacher.
