RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 22, 2015 at 12:39 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2015 at 12:55 pm by jenny1972.)
Jesus had plenty of opportunity to say that God was 3 and not 1 , but he never said God was 3 in 1 ever , never claimed to be God ever and always said that God was ONE ( just like the Old Testament said that God was ONE) ...
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." The words"our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD. ( also note " ONE LORD " never once did Jesus speak of a 3 in 1 type God )
Jesus never said that He was God only that He was Gods son , which in the Old Testament there are several . Jesus studied the OT and knew what the term " son " meant it meant servant to someone who studied and understood the Old Testament . that is what son of God meant and that is logically what He meant by it how the jews understood it . Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi so son of God meant nothing other than that not to HIM anyways .....
In the Old Testament , which jesus studied , a ' son of God ' refers to the righteous who become conscious of God's fatherhood to his creation. a servant who has a close relationship with God.
All four Gospels record Jesus as saying,“Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.”
When we ask the Jews themselves as to what the reasons are that they cannot accept Yahushua (Jesus) as Messiah, we get many different answers. However, there is one answer which is always listed as the number one reason for their inability to accept him as Messiah—the question of deity. The Christian claim that Jesus the Messiah was God which goes against scripture and the messianic writings .
[i]so do we trust what Jesus Himself said about Himself and His relationship to God which is in line with scripture and Jewish teaching or the belief that others claim that Jesus is God ?[/i]
John 20:17 Jesus said "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' " jesus clearly put himself among other humans and not above other humans
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." The words"our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD. ( also note " ONE LORD " never once did Jesus speak of a 3 in 1 type God )
Jesus never said that He was God only that He was Gods son , which in the Old Testament there are several . Jesus studied the OT and knew what the term " son " meant it meant servant to someone who studied and understood the Old Testament . that is what son of God meant and that is logically what He meant by it how the jews understood it . Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi so son of God meant nothing other than that not to HIM anyways .....
In the Old Testament , which jesus studied , a ' son of God ' refers to the righteous who become conscious of God's fatherhood to his creation. a servant who has a close relationship with God.
All four Gospels record Jesus as saying,“Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.”
When we ask the Jews themselves as to what the reasons are that they cannot accept Yahushua (Jesus) as Messiah, we get many different answers. However, there is one answer which is always listed as the number one reason for their inability to accept him as Messiah—the question of deity. The Christian claim that Jesus the Messiah was God which goes against scripture and the messianic writings .
[i]so do we trust what Jesus Himself said about Himself and His relationship to God which is in line with scripture and Jewish teaching or the belief that others claim that Jesus is God ?[/i]
John 20:17 Jesus said "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' " jesus clearly put himself among other humans and not above other humans
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today 
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John LennonThe easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
