RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 23, 2015 at 12:19 pm
(October 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Irrational Wrote:(October 23, 2015 at 11:37 am)jenny1972 Wrote: Joachim (/ˈdʒoʊ.əkɪm/; "he whom Yahweh has set up", Hebrew: יְהוֹיָקִים Yəhôyāqîm, Greek Ἰωακείμ Iōākeím) was the husband of Saint Anne and the father of Mary the mother of Jesus, according to the Catholic, Orthodox, and Anglican traditions. The story of Joachim and Anne first appears in the apocryphal Gospel of James. Joachim and Anne are not mentioned in the Bible.
Joachim not Heli was the father of Mary Jesus did not have any relation to David on his mothers side so therefore he cannot be considered the Messiah
How can you know who was her father? Some things are just unknown. And Heli is meant to be the father of Joseph according to Luke. According to Matthew, it was Jacob.
As for Mary's father, the name is never mentioned, so that's the answer.
yes it was as stated above Marys father is spoken of in the apocryphal Gospel of James and he had no relation to David
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today 
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John LennonThe easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
