Sin & Forgiveness

[miaharun]

From what you've written here it would seem that your understanding of sin, is a wrong commited from one person against another. If sin were social law your observation would have merrit.

However Sin, is not about breaking moral social law. All sin is against God. The acts of sin unlike moral social law, are not defined by a given act. Because when defining 'sin' we do not look to 'moral value' in the act itself. For example lying or killing another person has no moral value (good or bad) in of itself. Morality is not defined by an act (the other side of the coin Giving to the poor/saving a life also has no moral value in of itself.) What ascribes moral value is what God says about a given act like murder. Meaning it is only because God said it is wrong to murder, that makes murder wrong. Therefore to murder is to break God's commandment, the breaking of this command is sin. So for God to forgive this transgression through atonement and repentance, means God will not punish you for this sin. However this does not mean your debt to that person, yourself or soceity has been cleared.

Forgiveness of Sin only puts the soul 'square' with God.

Hi Drich , what I mean by sin is not one person to another. You can sin with your actions, your mouth and your mind. Even if one thinks "Oh I wish she would not pass her exams" I consider that as a sin, bad deed or misdeed. I only took murder as an example. Something out of gods context would still be a sin right. Not just things like murder which he mentions in the bible. Example I consider slaughtering animals as a sin.

So even if God forgives in the afterlife or where ever it may be people are still feeling safe because of this act. You say that debt to that person/actions , himself/herself and society is not cleared. However that's not the case , people are very happy that they have been forgiven and merely cares of those debts in this present life. That's what's bothering me like a splinter in my eye.

One man is happily married. He sees another attractive woman and commits adultery without his wife knowing. His guilt works up , his conscience might not be clear. However he asks for forgiveness or maybe confess. I don't know who or what tells him that he is forgiven but sadly that's the case most of the time. With that safe thought in mind he goes along like nothing happens. They say God gives them strength. I think this is what they are taking about. I say this because I know people who have committed a lot of bad deeds and whenever I ask them the answer is "I have been forgiven " , after that I'm being asked to take Jesus in my heart so that all my sins will get washed away "just like that " . Most of the people who talks like this are born again Christians. They were following other religions before including Roman Catholic