Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?

[jenny1972]

LMAO - you need a better source than that. That's really pathetic.

is the gospel of Mark a good source ? it was the earliest of the gospels

There is no suggestion of a virgin birth in Mark's gospel, and the first we hear of it is in the Gospel of Matthew. Mark's gospel tells the story of a radical Jewish rabbi who led his people in rebellion against the religious system of the day, and was crucified for this very reason. Like a good Jew, in Mark's gospel Christ insists that no one call him good, ‘for there is no one good except God alone,' and that if you want to find salvation and enter the kingdom of heaven, you should keep the commandments of God (a very Jewish response which you can contrast with the later Christian theological description of salvation described in the formula ‘believe in me and thou shalt be saved.' This concept is alien to Mark's gospel, and is also uncharacteristic of the other synoptic gospels.) Mark's Christ is a very Jewish rabbi and revolutionary, while Matthew's Christ becomes a divine being incarnated.

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It is one of the great myths of Christian theology that the New Testament presents a unified picture of the divinity of Christ. Actually the Bible contains many different opinions on this matter, and actually insists that Christ was not a god, that Christ was born in the usual way, in that Joseph was his father, that Christ was in subordinate position to God, among other things.

    In Mark's gospel Christ is 'the son of man' and is angered to be called 'good', much less to be called a God. If you want to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven 'keep the commandments', Mark teaches, while in John's gospel Christ becomes the incarnate Greek 'logos' and you are saved by 'believing in him.' Notice that in the following passage a man rushes forward to kneel in a worshipful way before Christ, and calls him 'good' provoking Christ to anger...When asked the 'big question' which is 'what must I do to be saved' Christ answers him curtly in such a way as to suggest that he already knows the answer to that question (so why did he bother to ask?)

   "And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him, and asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone. You know the commandments: ‘Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’" (Mark Chapter 10 verse 17)


[b]Compare this doctrine by Jesus to that of classical Christian theology today ......
Christ was good, in fact he was perfectly good and completely infallible in his god like perfection, being God incarnate and born of virgin. You are not saved by keeping the commandments. As the church dogma states, 'even the unsaved good burn in hell without Christ.' You are only saved by 'believing in Christ.' The gospel of Mark was written long before the church developed theology, purportedly based on the 'teachings of the divine and inerrant scriptures' and so we see that Mark was entirely unfamiliar with this later dogma.[/b]