RE: Intelligence² Debate: Islam is a Religion of Peace?
December 15, 2010 at 4:10 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2010 at 4:25 pm by Rayaan.)
A long and a boring debate. This is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hyDcJncreo
That's wrong because Muhammad never started the wars. He only took up arms in self-defense.
The Quran forbids Muslims from attacking anyone who allows others to live in peace:
"Thus, if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, God does not allow you to harm them." (An-Nisaa' 4:90)
"Hence, if they do not let you be, and do not offer you peace, and do not stay their hands, seize them and slay them whenever you come upon them: for it is against these that We have clearly empowered you [to make war]." (An-Nisaa' 4:91)
There's also Heaven, though. Not only Hell.
And if there was no Hell, then no one would care about religion and people could do whatever they want, and still go to Heaven.
It's more than just "getting lucky" because he had complete faith in God and that's why God was on his side all the time to make him so successful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hyDcJncreo
(December 15, 2010 at 2:27 pm)theVOID Wrote: I don't think ascertaining power through war is "getting lucky", He started and won 26 something wars with polytheistic and Jewish populations all justified through "revelations", commanding all believers that they were ordered by God to go and kill every man until they submitted. If you'd enjoy that reality TV show I'm worried for you...
That's wrong because Muhammad never started the wars. He only took up arms in self-defense.
The Quran forbids Muslims from attacking anyone who allows others to live in peace:
"Thus, if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, God does not allow you to harm them." (An-Nisaa' 4:90)
"Hence, if they do not let you be, and do not offer you peace, and do not stay their hands, seize them and slay them whenever you come upon them: for it is against these that We have clearly empowered you [to make war]." (An-Nisaa' 4:91)
(December 15, 2010 at 2:16 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Once Hell is in the mix, everything else is a secondary priority.
There's also Heaven, though. Not only Hell.
And if there was no Hell, then no one would care about religion and people could do whatever they want, and still go to Heaven.
(December 15, 2010 at 1:55 pm)Chuck Wrote: He seems to be a kind of enterprising small time hustler common to his era who got lucky.
It's more than just "getting lucky" because he had complete faith in God and that's why God was on his side all the time to make him so successful.
