RE: How humans are "slaves", and how that leads to the existence of God.
November 1, 2015 at 2:29 pm
(November 1, 2015 at 12:48 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Redbeard The Pink
You need to give me an example of an action that escapes the two possibilities (being given to ourselves or to somebody else).
Then about God, the concept in Islam that he wasn't the product of an action, how is something I don't know.
No, I really don't. It looks like you're shifting to the cosmological argument here (all things require a cause, so there must be an original cause that requires no cause), which is easy enough to refute without playing your little game.
If Gaud wasn't the "product of an action," then things do not have to be the products of actions in order to exist, and therefore Gaud is not required to make things exist.
If things have to be the product of an action in order to exist, then Gaud must be the product of an action and raises the question of which and whose action he is a product of.
If Gaud is the only thing that does not have to be the product of an action, then that is special pleading.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
