(November 2, 2015 at 10:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:It's quite different when you think you were ordered to die to get there, and just believing after you die you will get there.(November 2, 2015 at 9:32 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: No one wants to die. No matter what concept of an afterlife you possess, even those who believe in heaven aren't willing to die to get there.
(This is a paraphrase of what I heard someone else say a long time ago in a debate I watched. Just don't know who said it.)
Really?
I'm speaking of the people who hold a belief 100% true in their mind that an afterlife exists, and that it is better than their current life. They believe this in full, that death is something to look forward to, but they aren't willing to die to get there. This may come off as sick logic, and it's not a call to action for those who believe this as true. But for example, hypothetically if I knew and was 100% sure that heaven existed, and that heaven(based off the bible's desc.) is sooooo much better than my current life. I would have killed myself, I mean it seems unnecessary to stay in this life when I could eternally live in a better one right? Again, obviously people do believe this, and this is not some way of saying "well prove it". I just interpret, and think the quote means that everyone has some sense of doubt in their mind, regardless of the belief system.
Feeling you are obligated to kill yourself(which is what the people in the picture I assume believe), or service a higher power involving suicide is much different. I think it's very common to doubt what someone says, and still proceed to do it anyways simply because they are an "authority".
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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